I first played Shepherd’s Crossing 2 as Hakoniwa Seikatsu: Hitsujimura DS (箱庭生活ひつじ村DS), which is the Japanese version. I liked it. I really, really, really liked it. I played it for hours until my arms ached, I lost track of time, I forgot to sleep, I just totally went head over heels for it. There’s so much to do and in-game time passed so quickly, it was only low battery warnings that could get me back in touch with reality.
Eventually I enlarged my house to the greatest size, expanded my fields to the limit, got married (to Mika!), had a son, filled out my almanac and pretty much did everything there was to do. I retired, enjoyed the credits and put the game to rest.
Until I played Harvest Moon: Twin Villages. I’ve already gone into my thoughts about that game, so I won’t repeat them here. But my disappointment made me think about this game again. Harvest Moon is getting stale, I thought. It would be nice if there were other farming games, I thought. Yes, wouldn’t it be nice if someone localized Hitsujimura DS? I idly googled and found, WTF, someone did localize it! And apparently released it with little or no advertising, because I had no clue until I looked it up. How can people buy games they don’t know exist?
On the other hand, thanks to that it’s quite cheap on Amazon, so I guess that was a good thing. I had to shelf it a little while I played some other games (i.e. more TMGS3 than was good for me), but I started playing Shepherd’s Crossing 2 hardcore again last week. I retired just yesterday, with Maki as my wife and a cute little daughter who looks exactly like her. Sweet! For farming game lovers this game is very addictive, but there are several ways in which it falls short. You have to take the good with the bad, so I won’t pull any punches.
Bad: Relationship values don’t exist. You might be fooled at first when you find out you can share your cooked dishes with some of the village folk. When you visit, they’ll make some light conversation and give you some food, so you might think “Oh good, they’re liking me more” and stuff. Nah, don’t bother. It doesn’t make any difference at all. Whether the village folk are nice to you or not depends on their programming, not on your actions. Furthermore, marriage is all about how many sheep you can give in exchange for her (if you’re a guy) or how many bed covers you can offer him (if you’re a girl). It makes things simpler than HM, but I seriously missed interacting with other people and being able to walk around the village.
Good: Your spouse isn’t useless. Even after marriage, she’ll be seen doing various things on the farm, and every month or so she’ll give you her salary for doing various jobs. Maki grinds flour, makes bread and cuts hay, etc. She also regularly calls you in from the field so you can eat together. Aww. Your kid is useless though.
Bad: This game is sexist. It is heavily biased against the female character. If you choose the male character, you can run out of each important item (main dish, side dish, firewood) several times before you get a game over. And that game over is in the form of getting married to the “hottest” girl in the game, who takes pity on you. If you’re female, you automatically get kicked out of the village the moment you run out. Furthermore, a male can get married with just two or three sheep, but a female needs several bed covers, and it takes months to acquire enough wool, wash it, spin it and knit it to make a single bed cover because sheep can only be sheared once a year.
Bad: Starting up is hard. The game does not hold your hand one bit. It shows you the controls at first, then tosses you on your farm and says “Survive. If you can.” Figuring out what to do, how, when, can be extremely frustrating for newbie players. Even worse you have only a tiny amount of money to start with. Make the wrong decisions and you’ll be flat broke in no time at all.
Good: Once you know what you’re doing, it’s almost impossible to fail. I had a ton of close shaves in my first game, but this second time was a total cakewalk. I never even came close to starving. In fact I had more food than I knew what to do with most of the time. A tip for new players: you can start planting crops on the 16th of the previous season. More time for planting = more crops = more money!
Very, very Bad: Your farm is highly disorganized. This was a major flaw that I really couldn’t stand. Everything else (for me) was minor and could be lived with, but this was close to a deal-breaker. There are no storage facilities, no animal pens, no barns, nothing. If you want your animals penned up, you have to create fences and fence them in yourself, but the fences go all over the place and are hard to place right. Your tools will be lying all over the place, your pets will be running all over the farm, your food will be all over the floor, etc etc. It all seriously gets in the way and impedes freedom of movement. Not to mention it looks terribly messy.
Very, very Bad: You can only hold five items at a time. Five (5). If you want to hold more, you have to drop something else to do so. Since there’s no storage, you just drop them on the floor and come pick them later. Before long your items will be all over the place, even if you make an effort to keep them in one place. Some items are stackable, mainly straw and branches, but most are not. It really doesn’t make any sense that you can only hold five carrots at a time (haven’t you heard of pockets?) and is very, very inconvenient.
Good: Time only moves when you do something. The time you spend walking around, eating, feeding your animals, etc, doesn’t count. Time in Shepherd’s Crossing 2 only progresses when you do actual “farm work” like planting, harvesting, knitting, etc. This takes a lot of panic out of the game because you can spend the whole day planting, then go round feeding your animals at the very end of the day and it’s still fine.
Bad: Some tasks take a disproportionate amount of time. Especially sowing seeds and harvesting certain crops. A whole day just to knock three plums off a tree? A whole day to harvest five cabbages? Ridiculous. If you have the whole plot of land unlocked, it can take days to plant crops on every plot. At least they don’t need watering or the game would be nearly impossible.
Good: You can skip forward in time. If you find yourself with nothing to do on a certain day or season, just hit the L button to forward to the next day. HMTV really needed a function like that to make those boring days pass faster. You have to make sure your animals are eating their food before you do so though, because they’re so stupid they’ll just die if you forward without checking.
Good/Bad: Plot fertility goes down (represented by those green circles in the lower half of the picture). The less fertile the plot, the more likely your crops are to die or disappear You have to either practice crop rotation or use copious amounts of fertilizer if you want to keep farming the same pieces of land every time. I solved that by letting a few plots rest every season, but in any case I had more fertilizer than I knew what to do with, so I didn’t worry much.
Bad: Random disasters affect your crops All. The. Time. It’s the rare crop that grows all the way to maturity without being afflicted by some kind of disease or bug that causes you to lose half of it. Also in the beginning, before your pets are fully grown, you’ll have trouble with rampaging boars, ravaging wolves, greedy hares, plundering rats, etc etc. Wolves ate all my sheep once, I was so mad! It keeps you on your toes, though.
Good: You can kill your animals. Not just the meat ones like chickens and sheep but also the ferret, for its lovely pelt. Which you can then tan and sell for munniez, you savvy sadist, you. You can do the same with your rabbits, with the added benefit of getting to turn their meat into a delicious stew that most of the villagers love.
Bad: Vegetarians will hate that. Even if you choose not to kill your animals, you won’t be able to avoid an event where Mika kills your first chicken the minute it’s old enough. Luckily I’m not a vegetarian so I just spent my time drooling over the tasty-sounding dishes.
Good: You can grow many different types of vegetables. This isn’t much of an improvement over HM, which has more. Where the difference comes in is in the types of grain: wheat, sorghum, millet and buckwheat. Harvesting them can be a whole process that takes several days. For wheat, for example, you have to chop it down with a scythe, pile it up into stacks, let it dry for several days, undo the stack, thresh the wheat with a threshing stick (which gives you lots of straw for your animals, yay) and then finally toss it into grain bags. If you want flour you’re going to have to grind it with a stone mortar as well.
Good: You can cook lots of dishes in your kitchen with your meat and vegetables. The recipes aren’t that many, but they’re very detailed. Some of them need 5, 6, 7 different ingredients and cookware to complete. You feel a real sense of achievement when you cook them, not to mention they sound extremely tasty. Additionally you can make food products like cheese, butter, sausage, ham and bacon (mmm) from milk and meat.
Good: You can keep a lot of pets. Cats (only one type), ferrets (only one type) and many, many different breeds of dogs. And they all have their own little “playing” animation. It gets old really quickly, but if you like dogs you’ll enjoy it.
Bad: Pets eat a lot and aren’t multipurpose. In this playthrough I was very well-organized, but I had a really hard time of it in my first game, ‘cos those little critters eat a LOT of meat. The general store sells some meat scraps, but in general you’re going to have to butcher your animals regularly to feed them. Fortunately my rabbits bred like, well, rabbits, so that was fine. The fact that the pets aren’t multipurpose is annoying though. Each one only does one or two specific things, e.g. the terrier only chases rats and weasels. The Sheltie only herds cows, the Sheppard only chases wolves, etc. So instead of one or two dogs you need four or five (I had four) to do the same amount of work.
And more flaws, and more good things. I most enjoyed the time-management and butchering aspects of the game. If things had been a little more organized, if you could hold more items and if you could interact with the other characters a little more, this might have become one of my favorite games of all time. I hope they make a sequel!
if you have a ps2 there is the original Shepherds Crossing it’s alot like the ds one but you can’t get married and have kids
in my opinion it’s much more laidback then sc2
I do have a PS2, and the original Shepherd’s Crossing is #1 on my list of games to get in 2011 since it’s so cheap on Amazon right now. I also want to get the one on PSP (when I buy a PSP), which I hear is an improved port of the PS2 original.
yea bought mine at best buy for 8 bucks back in 09 and loved it ever since >< i love it but its very VERY frustrating when you can't really organise much and fences are crack hard to handle
and totally off topic
Where would be the cheapest place to get Tokimemo GS1 for ds?
Unless you know someone in Japan, TMGS is expensive everywhere. Yesasia.com has free worldwide shipping though, so that might be the best place to start looking.
If you play the female role, what do you have to do to not get kicked off your land in year 6 of summer? I’ve played this game four times each time trying somthing different, but the mayor still gives me the boot in the end…
Don’t run out of main dishes, side dishes or firewood at any point in time and you should be fine. I haven’t heard of any other reasons for getting kicked out. If it always happens in summer 6, have you tried getting married before then? Any guy will do.
Yeah I usualy forgeet to look at thoughs ^^ I tend to run out every now and then but that one person always helps me out and gives me the thing that I run out of… well thank you I’ll try keeping thoughs up better see what happens ^^
When you play as a male character, you get helped out a couple of times. The female character doesn’t get as much love from the townsfolk, alas.
What do I have to do to unlock marriage? I have a bunch of fully grown sheep, and I’ve expanded the house and land once; what else am I missing? (Sorry to bug you, but there doesn’t seem to be a walkthrough or wiki for this game online anywhere.)
I’m assuming you’re playing as a guy. It’s been a while since I played the game, but according to the Japanese wiki, you need to be in your 6th year. When you hit spring of the 6th year, go to the mayor’s house and talk about marriage. You need a minimum of three sheep to get married. Once you have the required number (I think they need to be unshorn as well) go talk to the mayor again to get the girl of your choice
when i was playing i was able to marry in my 3rd year. Also its not so hard after a while just keep buying sheep at the store and bredding them throught the whole bredding season once i didnt notice that 2 of my sheep got pregant and my cow. to get a cow u raise a lama bad thing about lamas the only thing u can do with them is sell them. I always wonder where they go after u sell them like if u sell 5 lamas where do they go and why do u get so much money for them?
Come to think of it, I don’t remember waiting so long to get married. But that’s what the FAQ said.
Raising sheep is only hard because they get attacked so often. Next time I play I’ll get corgis and other dogs ASAP.
Llamas for money is a good thing, isn’t it? The only problem is that by that time you usually don’t need the cash.
Having played the game again, I can confirm that the mayor will bring up the subject of marriage in your 6th year. However it’s likely that if you have the means to get married earlier, he’ll bring it up earlier. tl;dr start stockpiling sheep ASAP.
The main thing that annoys me is the sexism. My favorite game is rune factory (all 3 of ’em) but i cant be a girl in those (cant wait until the fourth one!). The one game i can be a girl in it screws me up by killing off a bunch of my crops and animals in the first few years. SAVE OFTEN!!! out of curiosity i played as a male character and it was extremely easy compared to the 14 years it took me to fully complete my girls game. other then that its pretty cool…
The frequency of disasters and attacks is about the same for both girls and boys. It’s the absurd marriage requirements and the ease of failure that make the main difference. I like to think of it as Boy = Easy Mode and Girl = Hard Mode. As you said, save, save and save again.
Btw, you can sort of play as a girl in Rune Factory 2 if you choose a daughter for the second generation, and many of the Harvest Moons offer female options.
The mayor keeps telling me I can’t retire because I haven’t contributed enough to the village, I don’t like missing something when I finish games. Or do I just go ahead and opt out to retire? In quick case, that’s a Hugh disappointment!
You don’t get anything special based on when you retire. The credits just roll, the end. However, if I recall correctly, the Mayor doesn’t consider you ‘finished’ until you’ve married and had a child. You may have to build the largest house as well, not sure about that. If you’ve done all that and he’s still bugging you, just ignore him and retire.
It’s one of the best farming games ever, for me. It’s so much fun. The only disappointing thing is the marriage. It’s just business, no feelings. All guys want to marry Elizabeth. It’s so cold it hurts. Not much better after marriage, but it’s nice the spouse does something and talks regularly.
Comparing this to the SC1, this is much better. I played only a few minutes into SC1, it’s very hard to control it, in the pseudo-3D or however it’s called. The messy system only fits this overhead format.
Yeah, I played SC1 after SC2 too, and I probably wouldn’t have touched this one if I’d played the original first. SC1 is fun in its own way – the PSP version has better graphics and a more spacious farm, but it’s just fraught with issues and the barter system is just URGH. I would have loved a Shepherd’s Crossing 3 with all the best features of both games combined.
Thanks for sharing this game on your blog that I’m excited enough to get a copy of this game. Unfortunately it’s a cart only copy and a complete copy is way out of my budget. I would love to read what’s on the manual and was hoping if u would scan them for us if it’s not too troublesome! =)
So sorry, I don’t have the English manual either. If it’s the Japanese manual, I could scan it in… a week? Maybe two weeks, depends on how soon I can get it from my sister. That’s if you want to see it, that is.
That would be lovely, Im able to read Japanese! Thanks in advance =)
Hi Kina, do drop me an email when you manage to get hold of a scan, much appreciated!
Will do!
Hi Kina, sorry to disturb again. Did you manage to get hold of the manual book for the ds game? Thanks in advance
Haven’t gotten round to it yet, sorry!
Realized I’ll probably never have the time to get a proper scanning done, so I hope you don’t mind camera photos. Will send a link to the zip file to your email.
Please let me know if any of the photos are unclear or don’t display properly.
SENT. It might go to your Spam folder since it has an attachment.
This is very far in the future. I realize that but I need help seriously. I bought the game from eBay with no book. I keep getting kicked out the village. I don’t know why. It happens on the same day. If anybody can help me? Please? I can’t get past it. I really like this game.
You get kicked out of the village right away? Or after some time has passed? The most common reason for you to be kicked out is because you ran out of food or firewood. Are you keeping the main dish and side dish bins in your house topped up with food? You need to toss in some grains (for main) and other foods (for side) regularly to stay alive. You should also chop up some logs and add them to your firewood pile occasionally.
If you play as a guy, you’ll get rescued a couple of times when you run out of stuff, so you can also restart as a guy for some leeway while learning the ropes.
On the other hand, if you’re getting kicked out for no discernable reason, it might be a bug?
Just for curiosity’s sake, I checked the current prices using the link in your post. Turns out that if you want that game today, you’ll have to fork out either 500 of 1000 bucks, plus 30 extra bucks for shipping and good measure. Funny what time can do to a game’s price tag 😜
Hahaha, that’s insane. The game is good, but not THAT good. ^^;;